best stallion for tb mare?

by **GemmaDUDE [PonyyLove** on Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:47 pm

what do u think would be a good stallion ( breed ect ) for a tb mare?

Used for Sj ect

by **GemmaDUDE [PonyyLove** on Tue Jun 17, 2008 4:52 pm

One Stallion i like, would he be okay?

by **bexwarren85** on Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:11 pm

I cant see the pic!? I would say friesian but I'm biased and prob shouldnt encourage cross-breeding. Depends what you want to do with the foal? Do you want something quieter? Coloured? Chunkier?

by **Kisabelle** on Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:35 pm

I don't know your mare so I'm going to write this for *any* mare. :)

The first thing is to ask yourself if your mare is good enough to pass on her genes. Has she got good conformation? A good temperament? A good show record or athletic ability? You should be answering 'yes' to all those questions.

Does she have any genetic problems that could be passed onto the foal? Some breeds have genetic disorders and a mare that is positive for a genetic disorder should never breed even if she is fantastic in every other way.

Ok, you've decided that she is good enough to be a broodmare. You need to really, clinically evaluate her conformation. Are her pasterns too short, just right or long? Is her back short, just right or long? Is her shoulder upright, just right or too laid back? etc..... etc......

If she has good conformation except (for example) an upright shoulder you would want to choose a stallion with a fantastic shoulder or a quite laid back shoulder. This improves the odds of the foal being fantastic everywhere, including the shoulder!

What disipline do you want the foal to compete in when he's older? If your mare is good at dressage, choose a dressage stallion and you get fantastic odds of a potential dressage star! )

Colour comes last! Only when there are two stallions that are equally suited to the mare would I allow colour to be the deciding factor. A badly conformed horse that is a pretty colour is still a badly conformed horse but a beautifully conformed horse that is bog-standard-bay is still a beautifully conformed horse. Which one has the best future and should (fingers x'ed) stay sound the longest and get a good home?

Even if you do all this you are not guaranteed a live foal and some mares die due to complications during foaling. I know that this is rare but if your mare is really precious to you, sometimes it is better to buy a well bred youngster.

by **GemmaDUDE [PonyyLove** on Tue Jun 17, 2008 8:07 pm

Bex it was a friesian in the pic :D

Emm , the mare was sold as a broodmare, so never been ridden, been tacked up and sat on but not ridden,

she has good con.

i was thinking coloured sports horse, but i wnted something with feathers , mane and tail, can u get anything like this out of a tb?

by **Kisabelle** on Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:18 pm

[quote]Emm , the mare was sold as a broodmare, so never been ridden, been tacked up and sat on but not ridden,

she has good con.

i was thinking coloured sports horse, but i wnted something with feathers , mane and tail, can u get anything like this out of a tb? [/quote]

Any unspayed (and I've never met a spayed one ) ) mare can be sold as a broodmare, it doesn't make them good enough quality to justify having foals though. *Please note that this was a general comment and not aimed at your mare as I have no idea of her quality.

My mare used to be a broodie and I don't think she should have been. She is very well bred, has nice confo and had been backed but had not really done anything. She is very nervous and I would lay money down that she taught all her foals to be nervous wrecks too. Her nervous nature in my mind stops her from being broodmare quality

Gemma, is your mare the one that is about to have a foal? If she was mine I would break/back her once the foal was weaned and ride/compete her for a couple of years but I like it when broodmares have proven themselves under saddle. :) What's her temperament like? I'd really love to see some conformation shots of her. Everyone will be able to give you advice about her conformation strengths and weaknesses which will help with matching her up to the stallion which will best compliment her. :cool: I'd also be interested to know her breeding. :D It's very unlikely that you will be able to get full feathers on a foal out of her even if the sire was a gypsy cob because the genes she will pass on will be for no feathers. You would probably get 'hairy heels', a sort of halfway between no feathers and full feathers.

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by **sammy898313** on Tue Jun 17, 2008 10:49 pm

how about a pony like a full up connie or new forest. those crosses are becoming very popular and have the speed and agility of the tb but with the clever 'get you out of trouble' -ness of the pony

by **bexwarren85** on Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:52 am

Well this is a pic of an arab x friesian from one of the top breeders in Holland. I know you have a tb but this is an example of what a top arab with top friesian can look like.

Note - feather, maine, tail. Unfortunately the friesian breeding is very strict and theres no approved friesian stallions in Britain but there are some good pure breeds. But like everyone says, you have to match your mare well to your stallion. You wont get anything that gets close to this unless the mare has good conformation, movement, etc.

by **GemmaDUDE [PonyyLove** on Wed Jun 18, 2008 3:53 pm

[quote]Gemma, is your mare the one that is about to have a foal?[/quote]

When we got her it was UNKNOWN she was in foal , and we lunged her with tack on to get her use to it, then got lead round with a rider on , (me) smallest and lightested one that can handle her on the yard. as soon as we found out she could of been in foal we stopped tacking her up ect and turned her out in day and bring in at night, as chestnut mares can be her temp is unpredictable, one time she bit me and has neva bitten any1 afta or before this, must of just been me :D

by **h4hat** on Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:33 pm

i think you would be very wise to listen to kisabell's advice! when it comes to breeding you dont want to go into it thinking all pretty foals etc!

yes people like striking looking horses and yes people do like colours BUT at the end of the day i dont know anyone who wants a fowl tempered horse with a right atitude problem which is pretty and someone who has a horse with a skinny body big head no neck etc (i.e poor conformation)

i think you need to sit down list all the pro's you want out of this foal......its use etc and then like the others said above link it up with the perfect stallion.

its nice your asking advice and not going into it blind and making rash decisions! its shows you care about your mare! good luck! im sure you will have a gorgeous foal!!!

by **Kisabelle** on Wed Jun 18, 2008 8:43 pm

[quote]When we got her it was UNKNOWN she was in foal , and we lunged her with tack on to get her use to it, then got lead round with a rider on , (me) smallest and lightested one that can handle her on the yard. as soon as we found out she could of been in foal we stopped tacking her up ect and turned her out in day and bring in at night,[/quote]

I think you did everything right. :) I hope her foal is healthy and beautiful, I can't wait to see some photo's!